ash, I hope you'll speak up.
https://photocentra.de/forum/showthread.php?p=35973#post35973

Let's talk, "Uncle Petya, are you an idiot?" (c) What kind of proportionality and "your methods" can we talk about from the mouth of a moron fixated on the topic of the crotch

Let's Talk, proportionality is when it's deserved and done accordingly. An eye for an eye. If you're not smart enough to understand that no one wishes you, the aggrieved, any personal harm, they're teaching you, so go ahead and use it! And what you've created here, "Uncle Petya"! I'd love to talk to you in person...

Pogovorim, unblocked until the first inappropriate comment.

Regarding the "rudeness" of the critics, we turned a blind eye to the somewhat harsh tone as long as the conversation still touched on the photo. All offensive comments (unrelated to the photo and written solely to taunt the other person) were deleted upon discovery, regardless of who wrote them. Nikifor has already received a warning and been banned. If he continues to engage in arguments using insults, we will ban him again, although we don't want to do that.

Let's talk, unblocked until the first inappropriate comment.

Regarding the "rudeness" of the critics, we turned a blind eye to the slightly harsh tone as long as the conversation still touched on the photo. All offensive comments (unrelated to the photo and written solely to taunt the other person) were deleted upon discovery, regardless of who wrote them. Nikifor has already received a warning and been banned. If he continues to argue with others using insults, we'll ban him again, even though we don't want to.

Master, no, you'd better "expose" all the clones. Then we won't have to ban anyone. And remove the option for "comments to be deleted" by authors. Otherwise, they're deleting everything.

Master, no need to feel sorry for anyone. If you consider this rudeness, ban me.
I'm not saying goodbye, a couple of comments and I deleted them. Not about the photo, not about the author, just nasty ones.

P.S.: I was banned again for a week on Photographers for the post "The administration is only for positivity. Negativity reduces site traffic."

Master, don't feel sorry for anyone. If you consider this rudeness, ban it.
I'm not saying goodbye, I deleted a couple of comments. Not about the photo, not about the author, just nasty ones.

P.S.: I was banned again for a week on Photographers for the post "The administration is only for positivity. Negativity reduces site traffic."

ash, any mention of the word "administration" and its derivatives is fraught with consequences.
Nasty comments need to be deleted. But it's annoying when you write to the point and about the photo. And in response you hear "you're a fool." And then the author remains unblemished.

"The administration is all about positivity. Negativity reduces site traffic."

Heh, I remember. If you write a letter to the administration explaining the reasons for the ban, the ban itself will automatically increase from 7 to 30 paril days.

PS: I was banned again for a week on Photographers for the post "The administration is only for positivity. Negativity reduces site traffic."

Any administration eventually comes to a single decision: it's easier to ban someone for any trivial matter than to deal with a more complex situation later, because there are so many people and it's physically very difficult to resolve conflicts every day, several times a day, especially for free. In my experience, this happens on every site without exception. So, I don't want to become like an "angry administrator with a baton," but every day someone pushes me closer and closer to such unpopular decisions. Requests and persuasion don't work. But we're holding on for now.

Master, impunity breeds permissiveness
needs a spanking

Photographers was banned again for a week for the post "The administration is only for positivity. Negativity reduces site traffic."

ash, did I understand correctly—you were banned?

Viewer2, well, yeah. For a week, every other week. Third time in a row, and always on Mondays, a tough day.

PS: I was banned again for a week on Photographers for the post "the administration is only for positivity. Negativity reduces site traffic."
Any administration eventually comes to a single decision: it's easier to ban someone for any trivial matter than to deal with a more complex situation later, because there are so many people and it's physically very difficult to resolve conflicts every day, several times a day, especially for free. In my experience, this happens on every site without exception. So I don't want to become like an "angry administrator with a baton," but every day someone pushes us closer and closer to such unpopular decisions. Requests and persuasion don't work. But we're holding on for now.

Master, do you know how democracy in Greek cities differs from today's? There was a core of three or four thousand citizens who a) knew each other (which has an educational effect) and b) decided all the issues in the agora. And all the other residents of the polis, not yet citizens, kept their mouths shut (though sometimes they even staged riots – that's true). And now it's ochlocracy, where the loudest is right. But regulation needs to be done; look at how they've already liberalized things to the point of making their pussies scream. Take up arms (read: rods). The rules are simple: swearing, personal attacks, what else? Three or four things that result in a ban. Without regard for gender or age! A warning, for a week or two, and then a lifetime ban in case of a repeat offense. Otherwise, the site, you know, is about culture, but sometimes when you read the feed... it's like you've ended up in a "sh-t-a-ch" room.

We turned a blind eye to the slightly harsh tone,

But everyone writes from their own accounts, unlike the offended, who, like cowardly rats, are afraid to unite from their own. The desire to create clones and show off their perverted nature would disappear.

Malakhov, there are rules on this site, and they're the most correct rules in the world – short, clear, and comprehensive, with descriptions of the admins' responses.
https://photocentra.de/rules.php

But they don't work.

Master, why?

Gentleness and loyalty are good in their place –
I know several examples from life where a manager's softness caused disrespect among subordinates, was perceived as weakness, inability to manage, disorganization, etc.

In solidarity with Alexey Nikolaevich Alekseenko, many of us, following his example, closed our portfolios
and adopted the nicknames Viewer,

there are already five viewers on the list of authors
maybe we should start with a number?

to prevent a clone from speaking on our behalf

In solidarity with Alexey Nikolaevich Alekseenko, many of us, following his example, closed our portfolios
and adopted the nickname "Viewer,"

There are already five viewers on the list of authors

Maybe we should number them?

To prevent a clone from speaking on our behalf

Viewer2, you can create five accounts here with the name "Viewer 5"

Viewer2, I agree.

Okay, from now on, all rude comments will be deleted, and the authors will be banned indefinitely. Amnesty - compelling reasons in the contact form.

But what if a flowerbed with bees suddenly blooms, what will you say?

Master, could you in some cases inform us about the facts of the ban and its reasons?

Master,

But what if a flowerbed with bees suddenly blossomed, what would you say?

It's already blooming in full bloom; the rating system needs to be changed.

Master, You've strayed from the topic. You should have banned rude comments according to your own rules.

The conversation is about clones and how you can (or can't) combat them.

We need to find a systemic solution, not run around the site with a fly swatter.

Okay, from now on, all rude comments will be deleted, and the authors will be banned indefinitely. Amnesty - compelling reasons in the contact form.

But what if a flowerbed with bees suddenly blooms, what will you say?

Master, the flowerbed is already blooming. Therefore, "rude" comments should be covered in more detail. If someone writes to me "ugh, that photo of yours is so disgusting," and I complain about the commenter's unbearable rudeness instead of asking the person why they think so, then they're banned "indefinitely"... And they only meant well because they decided I wasn't a complete idiot and that they could waste their time on me...

If a flowerbed with bees suddenly blossoms

let it blossom. It's more interesting for them to live and enjoy life that way.

But what if the flowerbed with bees suddenly blooms

And how does the snitching process work? Like when VVA snitched on me, and why can't I write to him? If I can't write to him, then he shouldn't write to me under my photos either. It's some kind of double standard.

We're talking about clones and how you can (or can't) combat them.
We need to find a systemic solution, not run around the site with a fly swatter.

The solution is to allow commenting only to those with a certain rating. I think we'll implement that.

tramp, you can't determine the real address behind a proxy. Opera-mini is a proxy.
"The man in the jacket is the enemy: shoot!" (c) Heinlein

I think we'll introduce it.

It's necessary. And it won't be like some stupid clone starting up and immediately trashing everyone they don't like. But you just have to post something. And wait. The urge to run to the toilets will drop sharply.

ash, Systemic not in the sense of "systemic", but in the sense of fundamental.

The rating system needs to be changed

Another viewer, the system has already been changed to combat honey plants, and "critics" took an active part. IMHO, no site has such a flexible system, and any rating system can be compromised. It all comes down to integrity and objectivity, and that's the main problem. Any new ideas?

It all comes down to integrity and objectivity, and that's the main problem.

I agree. That's where the problem lies. And the administration won't instill these qualities.

The rating system needs to be changed.

Another viewer, the rating system on the site has already been changed – everything has only become more complicated.
Pilots and drivers know – when you're skidding, you shouldn't turn the steering wheel – it will only make you skid even more.
Let it go as it goes.

And it's not about the points at all.
Anyone, after hanging out a bit, can determine the author's "worth" on their own scale.

Oh! I duplicated asha's answer

ash, Viewer2, I see

We're talking about clones and how you can (or can't) combat them.
We need to find a systemic solution, not run around the site with a flyswatter.
The solution is to allow commenting from a certain rating. I think we'll implement it.

Master, as a member of many photo communities, and at one time, I was a moderator and a member of artistic councils, I want to say one simple thing: endless cloning is easily eliminated. They already talked about the initial rating for writing, someone gets, for example, 10 recommendations on Works and starts writing comments... the problem has been solved and is being used on many resources.... On most sites, comments directly related to photo analysis are not only not deleted, but those who do so are also banned. Criticism is as much work as photography, and one competent analysis is sometimes worth hundreds of website photos. Here, they delete everything that is not praise. Respect each other's work, no one touches you as an individual, but as photographers, please be kind enough to answer for your creations. Many have a moderator staff that monitors and has the right to delete offensive comments, 5-6 people... they moderate by threads... I don't know, however, who would agree to this here and under these conditions, but this is also one of the options... Thank you all for your support, dear colleagues... You shouldn't be just viewers... Let's go back to the original state)) I think this is cause for concern for everyone, including the administration... I'll return from a business trip in a couple of days and also restore the portfolio. Good luck to everyone...

Why isn't the site's "activism" heard or seen? Apparently, there's nothing to say other than "good" (ctrl+V). Participate in the dialogue; the opinions of as many visitors as possible are important.

Mono, the thing is that many of them support "cloning", judging by the pluses of comment #2.

Many of them support "cloning," judging by the upvotes in comment #2.

Pavel Nagin, a side effect of the silence of the lambs

Dear viewers and sympathizers,
your rudeness and insults also fell on deaf ears of the admins. Oh, how alarmed they were when they were pressuring you with your own methods. Now you've received a proportionate response. Clones are your creation. Say thanks to Tolik, Nikifor, Safronov, who "abandoned" us, and the others. So, the thief's cap is on fire.

Let's talk, shoot yourself[/u]